recommendation on pedals for XC mtn bike

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Originally Posted by Philpug 

I have a pair of the platform SPD's (I forget the name of them), I will swap them on my bike if I head up to Vt to do any serious downhilling.  

LOL such a JONG :)

you either use straight up platform(IE both Sides) or straight up SPD for Downhiling or any serious form of biking.

Losing your flat side of the pedal only to try to stand on a SPD side or trying to clip into a flat pedal both are very scary thoughts.

No serious MTB I know uses both sided Pedals and actually like them.

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Originally Posted by Philpug 

I have a pair of the platform SPD's (I forget the name of them), I will swap them on my bike if I head up to Vt to do any serious downhilling.  

???  like a clip  that retrofits the pedal to make it like a non-clip pedal?

Finn - Phil and I have a mission for you.... 

OK, lets hear it? I am gaper at this stuff, just trying to learn. But it's summer so flame away.. :) 

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Originally Posted by Finndog 

OK, lets hear it? I am gaper at this stuff, just trying to learn. But it's summer so flame away.. :) 

Meet up with Phil and go here -

http://www.diablofreeridepark.com/

Hint: rent one of their bikes!

that place looks awesome! I can do a lot of damage to myself there for sure.  Hey stop raggin' on my Fuel, I like it!  :)

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Originally Posted by epic 

 

Meet up with Phil and go here -

 

http://www.diablofreeridepark.com/

 

Hint: rent one of their bikes!

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Originally Posted by Finndog 

that place looks awesome! I can do a lot of damage to myself there for sure.  Hey stop raggin' on my Fuel, I like it!  :)

I say we go up and post a good trip report. 

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Originally Posted by Finndog 

that place looks awesome! I can do a lot of damage to myself there for sure.  Hey stop raggin' on my Fuel, I like it!  :)

I'm not ragging on your Fuel. If all I had was my Giant, I'd rent a bike too. You'll have more fun on an 8" travel DH bike. If all I had was slalom skis and I went out to Steamboat, you'd probably advise that I demo fat skis, right?

I am definitely up for it. I can see after watching the video that my beloved Fuel is not up to full-on DH.  Lets put something on the calender. I am admittedly a complete novice at DH so as long as you don't mind riding with me.

Dude, no worries, its a lot more to hurt my feelings...  and you are 100% correct, this park looks awesome really, You can't take a XC bike to that place.  

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Originally Posted by epic 

 

I'm not ragging on your Fuel. If all I had was my Giant, I'd rent a bike too. You'll have more fun on an 8" travel DH bike. If all I had was slalom skis and I went out to Steamboat, you'd probably advise that I demo fat skis, right?

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Originally Posted by epic 

 

well those arent what I thought when I heard platfrom SPD. I thought it was the stupid one sided SPD, oned side platform pedals that they sell.

Finn, you originally asked about something that was user friendly and easy to get out of. I don't know of anything that fits that description more than the Speedplay Frogs. These are by far and away the easiest to get out of, as there is no spring tension to overcome, and for that reason they are the most knee friendly to boot. Plus they give you a wide range of float. I know that there were some complaints in the past about problems with mud clogging them up, but the new cleat system that they came out with a few years ago seems to have taken care of that, I have had no issues with the new ones. I know some of the real hardcore guys probably will have something to say about them, but I'm not that hardcore, and from what I'm reading, you're not either, you're just looking for something that will do the job with a minimum amount of hassle. I also use the Speedplay Zero's on my road bike, wouldn't use anything else, and I've tried most of them. Give the Frogs a try, you won't be sorry.

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Originally Posted by epic 

 

I'm not ragging on your Fuel. If all I had was my Giant, I'd rent a bike too. You'll have more fun on an 8" travel DH bike. If all I had was slalom skis and I went out to Steamboat, you'd probably advise that I demo fat skis, right?

Epic is great to ride with and very patient. Bringing a Fuel (or Liquid) to Diablo (and Kton) is lie bringing a knife to a gun fight. You do have a chance with the knife, but will get much more out of the gun. I did have a good time with my Liquid on some of the trails at Kton, but if I had a more appropriate bike, I would have had a better time. This is one of the reasons I stayed on the blues and easier black MTB trails, my XC bike really showed it's limits. 

MAc, thanks, the 520's release very easily. I am very happy with them, You had to kick out far wider with the 'tragers. Thanks though

Phil, yes, right tool for the job, hey, this is like a fat ski vs. skinny ski discussion! :)

To all, just talking with Phil, Anyone up for Diablo park June 22 or 29th (both Monday's).  Please let us know.

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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA 

 

 

LOL such a JONG :)

 

you either use straight up platform(IE both Sides) or straight up SPD for Downhiling or any serious form of biking.

 

Losing your flat side of the petal only to try to stand on a SPD side or trying to clip into a flat petal both are very scary thoughts.

 

No serious MTB I know uses both sided Petals and actually like them.

Wow, the arrogance, I guess we are not worthy to be in the presence of such a superior MTB'er.

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Originally Posted by Philpug 

 

Wow, the arrogance, I guess we are not worthy to be in the presence of such a superior MTB'er.

I guess I wasn't the only gaper who didn't know about your pedals.... 
 

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Originally Posted by Finndog 

To all, just talking with Phil, Anyone up for Diablo park June 22 or 29th (both Monday's).  Please let us know.

 

 

This TR will be worthless without pics.

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Originally Posted by epic 

Finn - Phil and I have a mission for you.... 

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Originally Posted by Finndog 

OK, lets hear it? I am gaper at this stuff, just trying to learn. But it's summer so flame away.. :) 

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Originally Posted by epic 

 

Meet up with Phil and go here -

 

http://www.diablofreeridepark.com/

 

Hint: rent one of their bikes!

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Originally Posted by Finndog 

that place looks awesome! I can do a lot of damage to myself there for sure.  Hey stop raggin' on my Fuel, I like it!  :)

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Originally Posted by Philpug 

 

 

 

I say we go up and post a good trip report. 

Ohhhh, that looks like fun.  
Post a great TR for those of us who can't join you!

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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA 

 

 

well there is absolutey no benefit to average mountain biker to use platform, except for some those who for some reason cant get out of SPDS(did you use shimano?) even the fastest DH guys run clipless.

 

plus he didnt asked if he should get platform/or clipless he asked what clipless pedal he should get. He already choose. Its right above your post. You just wanted to troll(successfully) and post about how you can ride platform pedals. Good for you! I bet you would be able to go faster though anything on clipless pedals.

The majority of bikers in my area all run platforms. If an air goes wrong......, If a berm busts away......

rizcorpl, I get the idea that you're not talking about an XC mtn bike.

While I agree that the OP did not specifically ask for clipless pedal information, the application he is using them for is likely not the same as what you're using your bike for.

Sounds like you have some experience doing some pretty cool stuff tho.  You should start another thread, or perhaps a Trip report to show us some of your riding style.

2nd that, how about different style threads, It sounds like "features" berms, jumps banks, almost BMX.  Sounds cool.

These are the SPD Platforms that I have.  

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Originally Posted by Finndog 

To all, just talking with Phil, Anyone up for Diablo park June 22 or 29th (both Monday's).  Please let us know.

 

 

Looks like the park is only open weekends until after July 4th. 

Phil, what's the model? That's a really cool setup I wonder if it tramsits more pedaling force from the shoe to the pedal given more surface area contact?

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Originally Posted by Finndog 

Phil, what's the model? That's a really cool setup I wonder if it tramsits more pedaling force from the shoe to the pedal given more surface area contact?

They came on the bike I bought Ty, he just wanted a regular pedal for tooling around campus. I tried them with my current shoes and were fairly easy to get in and out of, but I am not sure how easy if the shoe was all muddy. I plan on using my regular SPD if I am XCing but for lift access I will swap over. 

 i've worn out a couple of ATACs but believe they are durable. Lasted much longer than the Shimano XT, but those were from when Shimano XT was the only clipless mtb pedal. Back then, the release on Shimanos became more difficult when the cleat was worn down,  I got stuck in one and hurt myself a little. New Shimanos might be different, though they look the same to a casual observer (me). I've only used the original model.

ATACs release easily, I disagree that any experienced rider will not come out when they want to without thinking about it.  To anyone setting up Time pedals, I would suggest setting the cleats in the position that increases retention and decreases inadvertent release.

Currently I have studded platform pedals on my mtb, also 1.5" slicks and a frozen suspension fork, but that set-up is not for everyone.

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Originally Posted by telerod15 

Lasted much longer than the Shimano XT, but those were from when Shimano XT was the only clipless mtb pedal.

 

From that era also is the Look S2R Moab, which is what I have:

There was also a single-sided touring equivalent Look CR2.

I am still looking for the notched mud-clearing cleat spacers that look like a spiney hedgehog and fit between the main body of the cleat and the shoe.

These are the pedals that I've had on my HT since I first started using Clipless pedals.  I really like them, over all.

More recently, I got Shimano XT's for the SS to reduce weight, since it had a cheaper/heavier pedal on it.

I liked the Xt's enough that I was happy when the bike shop exchanged the candies that were recommended for my new bike, for XT's

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Originally Posted by Philpug 

These are the SPD Platforms that I have.