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PJ & Marcus commit to getting in shape for 2009/2010

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11 weeks done on my workout program.  4 lifting sessions a week, first one missed was yesterday.

3-5 bike rides or stationary bike HIIT sessions per week done.

5-6 low fat high protein meals a day with one free day a week.  Not perfect, but pretty darn good.

 

Gotten much stronger, but have lost only 1" off my waist and very little weight.  The weight makes sense because I'm using the MaxOT lifting concepts which are low reps, heavy weights (for me) - focusing on building muscles, so losing weight isn't going to happen.

 

I've increased most of the weights I'm lifting by close to 50% in 11 weeks!

 

Still wish I'd lost more fat though.  Got to change up something.

 

 

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Still wish I'd lost more fat though.  Got to change up something.

 

 


If you want to lose fat,your gonna have to lose the grains,breads,pasta,rice,etc.

Then up the good fat ,olive oil,avacado,nuts(not peanuts).

Lean meats,veggies,some fruit,seeds&nuts ,no starch,no sugar.

The fat will melt away,and you will have tons of energy.

Not to mention you will avoid the" diseaes of afluance"

 http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#7t1QGH/www.fitnessspotlight.com/2008/04/04/do-lectins-in-grains-contribute-to-obesity//

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 Very interesting article

 

My diet is typically:

 

Whole oats with whey protein added

Protein shakes

Chicken breast and brown rice

Salmon and potatos

Low fat cottage cheese

 

lots of veggies and fruit.

 

I've been thinking I've been eating too much fruit (sugar) and want to increase veggie to fruit ratio.

 

So do you think eliminating the brown rice and eating more potatos fits this concept?

 

And what of the oatmeal?

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I pumped up the tires on my bike last weekend.  I took 4 short rides last week.  Today, I talked my 6 year old in to taking the training wheels off his 16" bike.  Now, running along side him for about an hour today... THAT was a workout.  He's almost got it though.  I expect next week we'll be able to take short rides together. 

Smell that?  Winter's coming!
 

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 SMJ, the good news is that you're increasing muscle, and perhaps losing actual body fat content, just not losing the size/bulk, because you're building muscle.

Maybe you should try something like pilates or yoga to your routine to increase flexibility and breathing which should lean you out a bit.

 

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http://www.fitnessspotlight.com/2009/06/19/paleoprimal-eating-plan-improves-health/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNYlIcXynwE

You should get your carbs down to 20-25% of your daily intake.

Protein the same ,the rest come from fat.

It looks like that your carb intake is to high.

The whole oats,brown rice,potatoes can and should go.

Get your carbs mostly from veggies, some fruit.

Check the sugar in your protein shakes.

Grains really should be avoided ,contrary to what the USDA tells us

Remember also that insulin is a fat storage hormone,that is why to many carbs make you fat

Bottom line is eat real foods


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Thanks lobo.  Some of what you said and what that first article pointed out has created a big change in my eating.  However I do disagree with a couple of things.  So using my body as a test tube, I'll try what I'm doing now for a while and see what happens.

 

I believe that potatoes are a great source of carbohydrates, they are a vegetable - not a grain.  Needless to say I have them baked or broiled, not fried, and not every day.

 

I also don't like the idea of 50% of calories from fat.  As I'm lifting for muscle gain I will stay with my ratio of lots of lean protein, small amounts of fat, and as you suggest my carbs from fruits and vegetables.

 

My protein shake has no sugar, it's the Myoplex RTD, and ones I make myself from whey powder and banana.  Ideally I would not have the Myoplexes because they are definitely not "real" food, having all kinds of flavorings and artificial sugar, but they are something I've come to rely on daily for their taste and convenience.  

 

My everyday breakfast of oatmeal with whey protein is gone - replaced with cottage cheese and fruit.

My close to everyday brown rice with my chicken or fish is gone replaced with veggies.

 

Let's watch that belly fat melt away.

 

Thanks for the advice!

Steve

 

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 Very interesting article

 

My diet is typically:

 

Whole oats with whey protein added

Protein shakes

Chicken breast and brown rice

Salmon and potatos

Low fat cottage cheese

 

lots of veggies and fruit.

 

I've been thinking I've been eating too much fruit (sugar) and want to increase veggie to fruit ratio.

 

So do you think eliminating the brown rice and eating more potatos fits this concept?

 

And what of the oatmeal?



 

 

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Thanks lobo.  Some of what you said and what that first article pointed out has created a big change in my eating.  However I do disagree with a couple of things.  So using my body as a test tube, I'll try what I'm doing now for a while and see what happens.

 

I believe that potatoes are a great source of carbohydrates, they are a vegetable - not a grain.  Needless to say I have them baked or broiled, not fried, and not every day.

 

I also don't like the idea of 50% of calories from fat.  As I'm lifting for muscle gain I will stay with my ratio of lots of lean protein, small amounts of fat, and as you suggest my carbs from fruits and vegetables.

 

My protein shake has no sugar, it's the Myoplex RTD, and ones I make myself from whey powder and banana.  Ideally I would not have the Myoplexes because they are definitely not "real" food, having all kinds of flavorings and artificial sugar, but they are something I've come to rely on daily for their taste and convenience.  

 

My everyday breakfast of oatmeal with whey protein is gone - replaced with cottage cheese and fruit.

My close to everyday brown rice with my chicken or fish is gone replaced with veggies.

 

Let's watch that belly fat melt away.

 

Thanks for the advice!

Steve

 


 

Good stuff Steve…

 

FWIW; cranking up the fat burn from a diet perspective I would examine your L-Carnitine daily value and perhaps if needed, include a supplement.  Remind to schedule your annual blood tests [perhaps twice a year or more than 120 days apart if you are making larger changes with your diet and exercise routine] looking at the key markers for our sex and age group.  Protein, testosterone and thyroid are a few key markers I spy.  Especially thyroid where a TSH level of 1 pressing never more than 2 s/b the target regardless of tests defining a 3 to 4.5 level being “normal”.

 

Growing muscle to burn fat [more importantly maintaining muscle mass at our age which of course is an uphill battle post 50] without a plateau requires a plan performed with purpose and variation as I’m sure you do.  Stoking my metabolic rate to burn fat I incorporate primarily all compound moves alternating push/pull routines while varying tempo moving between strength and power movements never allowing my body to adapt.  All this happy work includes a better focus with quality sleep…which for many of us is the real challenge.  All in all this has worked well for me over the years including a measurably higher BMR influenced fortunately with a substantial and satisfying well balanced diet. 

 

Finally, I don’t worry so much regarding sugar when considering fresh whole fruit [although I read specifically that Laird Hamilton does and it obviously works great for him].  Whereas I do avoid all packaged sugars entirely [the cells evil toxic goo] which interestingly morphed into a commitment avoiding all flour products two years ago [huge positive results with that diet change].  BTW, if you’re up for a change with product; examine the cholesterol level of your Myoplex protein which I read at 15% of daily per serving.  For just that fact alone there are other well filtered Whey isolates having great profiles with <1 % per serving.

 

Keep up your program and I’ll have a hard time hanging on your 6 at Vail this season


 

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Good stuff Steve…

 

FWIW; cranking up the fat burn from a diet perspective I would examine your L-Carnitine daily value and perhaps if needed, include a supplement.  Remind to schedule your annual blood tests [perhaps twice a year or more than 120 days apart if you are making larger changes with your diet and exercise routine] looking at the key markers for our sex and age group.  Protein, testosterone and thyroid are a few key markers I spy.  Especially thyroid where a TSH level of 1 pressing never more than 2 s/b the target regardless of tests defining a 3 to 4.5 level being “normal”.

 

Growing muscle to burn fat [more importantly maintaining muscle mass at our age which of course is an uphill battle post 50] without a plateau requires a plan performed with purpose and variation as I’m sure you do.  Stoking my metabolic rate to burn fat I incorporate primarily all compound moves alternating push/pull routines while varying tempo moving between strength and power movements never allowing my body to adapt.  All this happy work includes a better focus with quality sleep…which for many of us is the real challenge.  All in all this has worked well for me over the years including a measurably higher BMR influenced fortunately with a substantial and satisfying well balanced diet. 

 

Finally, I don’t worry so much regarding sugar when considering fresh whole fruit [although I read specifically that Laird Hamilton does and it obviously works great for him].  Whereas I do avoid all packaged sugars entirely [the cells evil toxic goo] which interestingly morphed into a commitment avoiding all flour products two years ago [huge positive results with that diet change].  BTW, if you’re up for a change with product; examine the cholesterol level of your Myoplex protein which I read at 15% of daily per serving.  For just that fact alone there are other well filtered Whey isolates having great profiles with <1 % per serving.

 

Keep up your program and I’ll have a hard time hanging on your 6 at Vail this season


 

Hey Don, great info.  I just checked my February blood and urine tests and didn't find a TSH level in the results.  I messaged my PCP to see if it's called something else or wasn't done.

 

How can I determine my L-Carnitine values?  I don't see it listed in my multi-vitamin or in the Myoplex (which by the way is 8% cholesterol.)  Should I take a supplement?  I do no supplements (except vitamins, fish oil, Choline/Inositol and baby aspirin).   Have some BCAA but haven't used it in years.

 

I do vary my workouts, and do get a lot of sleep, so that's all good.  Been doing a push/pull arrangement for the last 12 weeks, switching to another routine with Biceps and Triceps on the same day in a week.

 

Definitely no sugar, and avoid white flour, but this recent change is avoiding whole wheat, oats and brown rice.  I am actually in agreement for now regarding fruit.  I need the carbs without my oatmeal and rice, so I'm not going to worry about sugar from fruit.

 

Typical menu now is.

 

Meal 1 (M1) Low Fat cottage cheese and fruit

M2  Myoplex shake or banana and whey shake

M3  Chicken breast and vegetables (or leftover salmon)

M4  liquid protein (New Whey) and an apple, or some other protein/veggie or fruit combo

M5  Chicken breast, salmon or tofu with vegetables.  Potatos a couple of times a week.

M6  Cottage cheese and veggies

 

I don't really count calories, but I estimate this to be under 2,000 calories.  Around 180 or so grams of protein is the target. 

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Hey Don, great info.  I just checked my February blood and urine tests and didn't find a TSH level in the results.  I messaged my PCP to see if it's called something else or wasn't done.

 

How can I determine my L-Carnitine values?  I don't see it listed in my multi-vitamin or in the Myoplex (which by the way is 8% cholesterol.)  Should I take a supplement?  I do no supplements (except vitamins, fish oil, Choline/Inositol and baby aspirin).   Have some BCAA but haven't used it in years.

 

I do vary my workouts, and do get a lot of sleep, so that's all good.  Been doing a push/pull arrangement for the last 12 weeks, switching to another routine with Biceps and Triceps on the same day in a week.

 

Definitely no sugar, and avoid white flour, but this recent change is avoiding whole wheat, oats and brown rice.  I am actually in agreement for now regarding fruit.  I need the carbs without my oatmeal and rice, so I'm not going to worry about sugar from fruit.

 

Typical menu now is.

 

Meal 1 (M1) Low Fat cottage cheese and fruit

M2  Myoplex shake or banana and whey shake

M3  Chicken breast and vegetables (or leftover salmon)

M4  liquid protein (New Whey) and an apple, or some other protein/veggie or fruit combo

M5  Chicken breast, salmon or tofu with vegetables.  Potatos a couple of times a week.

M6  Cottage cheese and veggies

 

I don't really count calories, but I estimate this to be under 2,000 calories.  Around 180 or so grams of protein is the target. 

Steve…PM sent.



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I wondered what we would all talk about in the off season

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 Hey GW, you need to change your profile pic.  You don't look much like a penguin.

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Yea I am working on that. You were probaly the one who gave it to me . Mark theres always a woman to tell us what to do huh!!  lol 

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Hows  that Pic  TC little GW on the Bayou 

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 Typical menu now is.

 

Meal 1 (M1) Low Fat cottage cheese and fruit

M2  Myoplex shake or banana and whey shake

M3  Chicken breast and vegetables (or leftover salmon)

M4  liquid protein (New Whey) and an apple, or some other protein/veggie or fruit combo

M5  Chicken breast, salmon or tofu with vegetables.  Potatos a couple of times a week.

M6  Cottage cheese and veggies

 

I don't really count calories, but I estimate this to be under 2,000 calories.  Around 180 or so grams of protein is the target. 


Pretty much what I eat, except I eat greek yogurt with some "clean" granola in the AM.  We eat (my wife and I) a lot of grilled turkey loin and other fish as well.  I drink a EAS whey protein drink before every workout and then a myoplex following each. Also may eat at 10/2:00 almonds and dates or dried cherries. At least 72 oz of h20 but should be more. NO cheese, no butter! limit alchohol to 3 total drinks per week.

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 For anyone over(or approaching) 50  who is looking for inspiration, check this out....
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 So, wanted to update folk on the Bicycle Tour of Colorado.  This was a pretty hard event, and the training I put in (1800 miles outdoors since March, in addition to innumerable hours sitting on the stationary bike and doing strength training) paid off.  I was able to ride almost all of the ride, with one little glitch I'll explain in a moment.

First, though, it might be interesting to recount how I found myself delusional enough to pick this event.  Some of you might have met me at an ESA over the past three years, and might remember me as a rather large guy.  At the time I contemplated doing a bike tour, I weighed about 245 lbs, although I rationalize my weight by thinking that I was pretty active, skiing around 40 days a year, biking around 1700 miles a year, and generally able to hang with most folk.  However, I wanted to do something that would motivate me to lose weight, and my buddy and I thought a bike tour might do it.  We decided to sign up for the Ride the Rockies.

Now, Ride the Rockies uses a lottery system to allocate the 2000 spots on its tour.  At the beginning of February, my buddy and I signed up, and we started training.  This year, the RTR itinerary was for a 380 mile tour over 6 days of riding, with some tough mountain climbs involved.  As a result, I hired a cycling coach who designed a training program for me.  All was well, I thought: given that I rode around 1700 miles last year, I was sure I'd be able to step the training up marginally and be able to complete the ride.

At the end of February, we were informed that we had not made the cut.  Some of you may know that I am an economist, and my buddy and I promptly forgot the concept of "sunk cost."  We had invested heavily in our training, and we weren't going to let it go to waste (if we only knew how little we had really invested at this point in training, we would have been embarassed, but spending 4 days a week on a stationary bike tends to warp your mind).  My coach, when I first met with him, had mentioned the Bicycle Tour of Colorado.  I sent a web link to my buddy, and he said that he was going to sign up.  Now I went all-in, and joined this endeavor.

Whereas the Ride the Rockies is 380 miles, the BTC is 515.  And while the BTC followed some of the same terrain as the RTR, it had much harder days, including a climb over Grand Mesa that is amongst the biggest climbs in Colorado.  So, my coach indicated it was "game on," that I would have to cut back my skiing in March to 1 day a weekend, and stop it all together in April.

The training was 6 days a week, with a rest day.  Early in the training, I did 2 days of strength training and 2-3 days of stationary bike work (he would have preferred me to ride outdoors, but it took a while for me to understand the power of wool jerseys and the insanity of sitting on a stationary bike going nowhere).  For the past two months, I've been down to a single day a week of strength training, and 5 days a week of outdoor riding, building to 220-280 miles a week.  My coach doesn't focus on miles, but time on the bike.  I also rode 2 organized centuries; one in May, and one in June.  Both of these were surrounded by 3-4 hour rides and 5-7 hour rides.  It seemed crazy to ride so hard before and after the century, but the name of the game in a tour with tons of climbing and distance is being able to recover, and that means you've got to ride hard multiple days in a row.

My training also meant that I had to start working on climbing.  Before this year, I rode a lot of the flat stuff on the plains here in Colorado.  My coach emphasized that I should be heading into the mountains for my rides.  This was tough, but I finally started to get the hang of climbing in the two weeks before the BTC.  It also helped that I lost a fair bit of weight, and the strength training led to an increase in my power as well.  The training led to me losing enough weight that I was down to 210 at the start of the ride.  

Now, to describe the results.  Last Sunday started with a drizzle and an 80 mile ride from Glenwood Springs to Hotchkiss over McClure Pass.  This was a pretty easy ride for me, even though it did include 3900 feet of climbing.  McClure Pass was the steepest climbing we did, with it topping out at about 10%, although the hardest part is the final three miles of the climb which averages something around 8%.  

Day 2 was tough -- 95 miles from Hotchkiss to Grand Junction over Grand Mesa, with a total climb of around 7300 feet.  The tough part of it was the relentless climb over 20 miles from Cederedge to the top of the Mesa, with about 5k of climbing.  It just went on and on.  This was the biggest climb I've ever done.  But the descent was unbelievable -- fast, long, and open.  I topped out at somewhere around 60 mph, and could have gone faster, but I was cautious as I didn't know the road or the condition of the surface.

Day 3 was a quasi-rest day, with 65 miles from Grand Junction to Montrose.  With only 2800 feet of climbing, it should have been pretty easy, but it was quite a bit of a challenge due to the presence of a killer head wind that was somewhere around 30 mph.  Still, it went pretty fast, and I felt pretty good at the end of it. 

Day 4 was a long day, almost all uphill, of 93 miles from Montrose to Crested Butte.  All of the significant climbing is in the first 30 miles.  In toto, there was about 5k of climbing, but it was complicated by a killer wind that typically (and did) arise on the climb to the top of the Cero Summit.  I got a bad case of hotfoot, and played with differing pedalling styles to try and relieve it, but by the end of the ride, I was only able to motivate myself by reminding myself that the next day was a rest day -- and I needed it.

After the rest day, the next day of riding was from Crested Butte to Buena Vista over Cottonwood Pass.  The slight downhill from Crested Butte to Altamont was fast and furious -- I think I averaged in the high 20's for this section of the ride.  We then embarked on a gradual climb to Taylor Park Reservoir, where the road turned to dirt for the next 14 miles.  The dirt was pretty well packed, but it had potholes and wasboard; as a result, I dropped my speed considerably.  I made the summit at noon, only to find the clouds closing in from behind me.  As I started the descent, it started to mist;  I thought I would be able to outrun the storm, as this is a famous high speed descent in Colorado.  However, by the third switchback, the mist suddenly turned to sheets of rain.  I stopped, put on full rain gear to protect my soaked body, and resumed the descent.  This was the most frightened I have been on a bike -- with all of my strength applied to the brakes, I could barely control my speed.  However, when I hit the 10% grade, even with full brakes applied, I was accelerating.  I couldn't see more than 50 feet ahead because of the intensity of the rain.  Finally, I made it down, but I had become hypothermic.  It took more than 45 minutes to stop shivering.  And I was giddy because I felt I had survived an experience where I wasn't sure I was going to make it without serious injury or possibly death.  I later learned that they pulled everyone behind me off of the road and literally threw them in UHaul trucks without their bikes.  

So, today I was to  ride the final leg, from Buena Vista to Glenwood Springs over Independence Pass -- a 104 mile leg with around 5k of climbing.  I started riding at 5:45 AM to minimize the chance of being caught on the pass in a thunderstorm.  From the start, I felt tired, even though I had a great night's sleep last night.  I just couldn't maintain power levels that are normal for me.  It didn't help that we had a fierce wind.  By Aid Station 1, I knew I just didn't have the strength to climb the rest of the pass.  So, I managed to catch a SAG wagon, intending to ride from the top of the pass down to Glenwood, about 60 miles.  

However, my bike, a carbon fiber recumbent, only fit on the SAG wagon trailer if the front wheel was dismounted.  Somewhere in the 15 miles from the aid station to the top of the pass, my wheel flew off of the trailer.  So I had no choice but to SAG all the way into Glenwood, missing the vast majority of the ride (even though it was all downhill).  

I'm disappointed that I had to SAG this morning, but I have to look at what I was able to accomplish.  This was a tough tour; many of the participants are truly avid cyclists, and thought it was amongst the hardest tours they have ever done.  I was able to hang with the vast majority of the participants with respectable completion times.  Perhaps if I had not become hypothermic yesterday I might have been able to complete the climb today; the hypothermia sapped a lot of energy from me.  

And, most importantly, I've lost a lot of weight, and my body shape is a lot different than it was.  I'm hoping that I will be able to continue to keep the weight I've lost off, maintain my acquired fitness, and lose perhaps another 20 pounds.

I hope my story will resonate with some.  If I can do it, then I'm sure others can as well.  And I wish you all well, and hope to see you soon at another ESA event.

Mike


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Hi Mike,

 

What a great endeavor and story. I'm sure your cycling ability tripled in terms of strength and endurance in a matter of months. You now have a base level of fitness few people ever achieve.

Remember, time spent on a bike is not subtracted from your life  .

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Mike, what an incredible story!  Thank you for sharing.

I did my first tri this morning so I too am basking in the glory of reaching a goal.  So cool to be able to call myself a triathlete. 
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Mike, what an incredible story!  Thank you for sharing.

I did my first tri this morning so I too am basking in the glory of reaching a goal.  So cool to be able to call myself a triathlete. 

oOO   hOW DIT GO?

D'ya get t1 ok?

D'ya cramp at t2?

'basking' implies no reverse peristalsis...  someone rested on the bike leg. 


2000/4mi brick tomorrow, wml.

Now on Mondays.

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It went great!  No cramping but it definitely wasn't easy.  The major issue of the day was that my timing chip came off with my wetsuit in T1 and was unnoticed by me until mid-run so no official time for me.  Breathing was the biggest physical challenge of the day.  But I know I finished and I'm happy over all.  Always room to improve but with an unofficial ranking of 495 of 1062 overall and 96 of 146 in my age group (a notoriously competitive age group in triathlon) I'm not ashamed one bit.  Here's a video of my day:

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 Congrats Robyn, a big accomplishment.  Keep it up!

Did you do RAW/RAAM?

Mike
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 Mike, you've come a long way.  I'm impressed with the level of fitness that you've achieved and where you're going with it. 

Robyn, I know how you've trained for this, even with the bumps in the road along the way, you've stayed on task. This is awesome! 

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 Congrats Robyn, a big accomplishment.  Keep it up!

Did you do RAW/RAAM?

Mike

No, due to some other health issues and the fact that I got laid off in May I decided against it.  As it turns out I started my new job in Boulder the week of the race so I'm glad I didn't. 

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Mike,
That's fantastic! I'm not sure however, since you've lost all that weight, that you'll continue to be the "snowblower" of Big Sky! Really great to hear your story.  Inspirational. How does riding a recumbent compare to a regular bike? Harder? I don't know that we'll be able to keep up with you at another ESA! But we'll try our best!
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Steve

The conventional wisdom is that climibing is harder on a bent for two reasons:  they typically weigh more than a "wedgie," and you can't stand on the pedals to get the advantage of body weight/upper body leverage.  However, my bent is a carbon fiber bike that probably weighs less than 20 lbs, so that isn't an excuse that I can use. (I bought the bike to a) provide an incentive in training and b) to remove as much of the impediments to success on a bike tour with lots of climbing). 

In reality, I think the real issue is the engine.  Even though I've lost a bit of weight, I'm still pretty pathetic on the power to weight front, and climbing is all about power to weight ratio.  Note that Lance has reputedly lost 25 lbs and is back down to 160 lbs for the start of the TdF (he lost most of the upper body muscle he put on since retiring).

The BTC was a big goal for me that I picked to lose weight.  I'm hoping to stay motivated.  I have started discussions with my cycling coach about finding another goal to keep me on track, but he suggested another 5 day  tour in the Colorado mountains -- in August.  In a couple of weeks, I might think that's a fine objective next year, but I'm not interested at the moment in devoting that much vacation time to another bike tour this year.  I'm now leaning toward a goal of riding a fast (say 5:30) century in September, but will be discussing that with the coach next week.

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Mike,
Took me a couple of seconds to get "bent". Was scratching my head for a few moments.   I can understand not wanting to jump right back in and start retraining for another monumental effort. Need a break both mentally and physically. What's with the free room at the St.Regis? (Other post on scheduling of upcoming ESAs) Got more of where that comes from? Share! Congrats again on setting a difficult goal, sticking with it and making it happen.
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O  Note that Lance has reputedly lost 25 lbs and is back down to 160 lbs for the start of the TdF (he lost most of the upper body muscle he put on since retiring).

I believe that.   He looked a lot more gaunt during the Velonews interview than he did in the middle week of the Giro.

Now on Mondays.

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 Lance  is looking quite strong.  He, Levi, and Chris Horner have been training in Aspen since the Giro.  One of the guys on the BTC drove up to Aspen prior to the start of festivities and ran into a traffic jam.  The right lane was blocked by an SUV, while the left was blocked by traffic going very slowly.  Winds up it was Lance out for a training ride -- with a film crew in front of him.  Folk were slowing down, gawking, taking pictures, etc.

The local press has been following his moves recently.  Sounds like he is in terrific shape for the tour -- and might actually have a chance to be a contender if Contrador waivers.

Man, wouldn't it be cool to be in half the shape he is in?

Mike
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Originally Posted by habacomike View Post

Man, wouldn't it be cool to be in half the shape he is in?

Mike

That's approximately the idea right now, the goal being 2.6 watts per pound at AT by Sep. 15th

Now on Mondays.

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