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Anyone know who is having a good sale on goggles online? I want get a new pair for a good price

 

 

Thanks

 

Steve 

Thanks,

Steve

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Steve,

 

This season I picked up a pair of Zeal Optics Link PPX goggles from REI.  They retail for between $170 and $200.  REI had them on sale for about $110.  Not really a bargain basement price, but they are fantastic and worth every penny I paid for them.  They are both polarized and photo-chromatic.  The lenses are similar to a transition eye glass lens, where the tint changes fairly dramatically depending on the light conditions.  I have used them morning, noon and night in everything from bright sun to a snow storm with fantastic results.  Additionally, I have not had them fog up on me once.  Another plus is that they are helmet compatible. 

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 I just switched to Uvex goggle and Helmet

I am extremely impressed regardless of price

which is around $45.00 right now!

 

UVEX invented and patented the anti-fog coated goggle lense.

 

they are very comfortable and  Optically superior to anything I have ever used!

 

You just cannot beat them and this price is a huge bonus! 

 

#1 goggle used on the World Cup by a large margin!

 

I have owned & do own Smith Scott, Briko, Oakley

 

Extremely easy to change the lenses and the frame is very flexible.

 

www.race-werks.com

 

www.artechski.com

 

 

www.ski-racing.com

 

www.reliableracing.com

 

www.uvexsports.com

 

www.uvexrace.com

 

Most come with the gold-lite double lense which is pretty damn good, but they also make anti-fog coated single lenses for different condtions that you can find for $10.00

 

By the way. Know what UVEX stands for????

 

Ultra Violet Excluded!

 

I also have single lenses that are

 

Clear

Night Enhanced (Citron) work great at night

Vista (Flat Light Rose)

 

Then double lenses that are  Light blue Mirror (Awsome for bright sun)

and Gold Lite for overcast.

 

the Racer goggle does not have a a lot of  venting which I prefer and is great at speed (the No fog works great even on the single lenses and I wear with a UVEX helmet) have used them in a blizzard, at night and in very cold and relatively humid warm condiotns. they were flawless. also i wear contacts skiing.

 

 

 

 

 


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Edited by Atomicman - 3/15/2009 at 12:21 am
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got to go with Smith. check backcountry.com or tramdock.com for good prices. their replacement lenses are the easiest and cheepest to find. the fit is very versatile, more so than oakley or zeal and others by far. What racers need barely resembles what we skiers need, completely different situation for them.

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I have owned multiple Smith goggles and do now. I freeski most of the time not race.

 

And yeah, you don't need what racer needs. They are only skiing conpletely balls out at up  to 90 MPH through every and any conditions including, FOG and flatlight on solid ice where visibility is a life and death proposition!

 

I mean why would you use what works for them

 

The Uvex are better and cheaper then Smith's that didn't sell somwhere because they were an off color or weird model!. In fact less then 1/2 the price of a new desirable goggle and they are clearer and have more lens choices!

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Anyone know who is having a good sale on goggles online? I want get a new pair for a good price

 

 

Thanks

 

Steve 

 

 

Just keep your eye on Tramdock.com and Brociety.com. Every day, they have crazy deals on goggles from every major manufacturer.

 

I got everything from Smith, Zeal, Oakley and Electric from them. My favs are the Electric, they are huuuuge and fit my face :-)

 

J.

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To be honest, I don't see all that much difference between different goggles. I used Uvex, Briko, Shred, Carrera and this year I'm using Scott (89Xi RC), and I wouldn't say any of these goggles were much better or worse then others.

PS: Atomicman I wouldn't be so sure about #1 in WC. Scott is extremely agressive lately, so just out of head without counting, I would say Scott could be #1 in WC, and not Uvex... But both Scott and Uvex have big share of skiers. But this doesn't mean anything anyway... in WC it's about how much companies pay for using their stuff, not how good quality they have.

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I did not base my recommendation, by any means,  on the WC comment. I just don't believe you can get a better goggle for $45.00

 

But if you have watched Universal Sports lately you would see UVEX helmets and goggles outnumbers  evething thing else by a wide margin.

 

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Check out the pair Philpug is selling. $55 for Zeal's

 

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/82253/fs-zeal-goggles-xtra-lenses

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I've owned most all, and would stay with Oakley or Scott - BUT - importamnt - what fits your face? What fits your helmet?, what kind of conditions do you expect to experience - lots of bluebird, typically overcast, what color lens lets you see best?

 

I like either the Oakley High Intensity or Iridium lenses depending on conditions, or the Scott Sensor Mirror. Got some off Tramdock today for under $50 with the sensor mirror.

 

Yeah, we all need what racers need  - assumedly we all need to buy cars with ultrastiff suspension, mega-fat tires, minimum interior weight / amenities etc. Racers wouldn't be sponsored to use something, right , and the product wouldn't be specialized for that individual at that level, right .

 

Tramdock and SAC are my go-to's for goggles - be patient and they'll come up. 

"I'm quite certain that I don't need some pre madonna telling me how everyone's foot is different." Greggor.

"Anywhere else is a waist of time." Skier232.

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Shoot, I am clearing out my ski closet right now, and was just about to list some goggles in gear swap.  They are a brand new pair of Scott G6 goggles with the Amplifier lens -- you can have them for $15 shipped if you want.  

 

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Smith makes the Sensor Mirror not Scott!

 

Racers need the same thing you do in a goggle. Optical Clarity, Protection from UV, comfort, Anti-Fog and multiple lense choices and reasonable ventilation.

 

They don't make customized goggles for Racers. They need some really special goggles for thier really fast eyes?

 

Maybe in downhill they need less venting, but Bode and Benni Raich use Briko which have way to much airflow for me!

 

Can you not comprehend what you read. I said I Freeski in mine most of the time!

 

Also UVEX lenses are made from Bayer Makrolon, Check it out! (contacts and eyeglass lenses use makrolon)

 

They also patented anti-fog coating and all goggle manufacturers that use the technology must pay them a royalty!

 

I used Briko and Smith for years. The UVEX are better. The lenses are clearer, anti-fog works better, easier to change lenses (great variety of single replacemnt lenses for $10 each and their double non-mirrored lenses are only $25.00, softer more flexible frame and better foam.

 

Sensor Miror Phenoms are over $110.00 and replacemnt lenses are $45-$50 and the UVEX Vista and Gold-Lite are better in flat light!


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Smith makes the Sensor Mirror not Scott!

 

racers need the same thing you do in a goggle. optical clarity, Protection for UV, comfort, Anti-Fog mand multiple lense choices.

 

they don't make customized goggles for Racers. they need some really special goggles for thier really fast eyes?

 

Maybe in downhill they need less venting, but Bode and Benni Raich use Briko which have way to much airflow!

 

cna you not comprehend what you read. I said i Freeski in mine most of the time!

 

and UVEX lenses are made from Bayer Makrolon, Check it out! (contacts and eyeglass lenses use makrolon)

 

They also patented anti-fog coating and all goggle manufacturers that use the technology must pay them a royalty!

 

I used Briko and smith for years. The UVEX are better in every way. The lenses are clearer, anti-fog works better, easier to change lenses (great variety of single replacvemnt lenses for $10 each and thier double non-mirrored lenses are only $25.00 softer more flexible frame and better foam.

 

Sensor Miror Phenoms are aover 4110.00 and replacemnt lenses are $45-$50 and the UVEX vista and Gold-Lite are better in flat light!

I stnd corrected, it's Smith not Scott that makes the Sensor.
 

 

So you don't think that there's changes make to tint, color, fit, padding, venting, etc to deal with differences in facial size, visual acuity, color vision etc. at that high competition level? Okey doke

 

And no doubt Bode and Raich would be intrigued and stunned to learn that they're using the wrong equipment according to A-man . Maybe you should email them - for sure Bode would change in an instant if he knew . Ya think that maybe they use Briko because they get PAID? Naw, couldn't be right? And maybe all them other guys with Uvex only use them for the love of the product - correct? Looks like maybe my reading comprehension is a lot more accurate than your comments .

 

Just to show you what a great deal I got on the (apparently) over $4,000 Smith's, mine off of Tramdock were under $50 - including shipping - that's just barely 1% of msrp apparently! Tramdock RULES!

 

Just for fun, go to TGR and tell them some stuff from Uvex is the best flat light goggle. OK, some of those guys are only big mountain kind-of legends, not A-Man racers.

"I'm quite certain that I don't need some pre madonna telling me how everyone's foot is different." Greggor.

"Anywhere else is a waist of time." Skier232.

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You are total darrell! I never siad they are using the wrong equipment! I really liked my Briko stuff. Used a  Briko helmet and goggle for years. I said FOR ME too much wind coming in! I am liking the Uvex Helmet and goggles better. Excuse me.

 

You get on here and make a big deal about how great Scott is and how cheap you bought some leftovers that didn't sell elsewhere or some weird off the wall model and it turns out you bought Smith or were just BS'ing everyone!

 

And yes custom paint jobs on the helmets, you bet!

 

A bunch of special goggle frames, and lenses I seriously doubt it! I mean afterall the racers have really speciallly shaped faces!

 

So what if they are getting paid. No one is going to use an inferior goggle because they get paid. And afterall, I think any of the WC racers can afford a $45.00 goggle! Oh maybe they need 2 pair over the course of a season and Pro-form is $25.00 So, they are going to use a lousy goggle to save $50.00 Pleez! We are not talking numerous pair of expensive skis and boots here!

Whenever folks pick on typos,  you know they are groping for straws!Besides if you read I fixed that typo long ago!

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You are total darrell! I never siad they are using the wrong equipment! I really liked my Briko stuff. Used a  Briko helmet and goggle for years. I said FOR ME too much wind coming in! I am liking the Uvex Helmet and goggles better. Excuse me.

 

You get on here and make a big deal about how great Scott is and how cheap you bought some leftovers that didn't sell elsewhere or some weird off the wall model and it turns out you bought Smith or were just BS'ing everyone!

 

And yes custom paint jobs on the helmets, you bet!

 

A bunch of special goggle frames, and lenses I seriously doubt it! I mean afterall the racers have really speciallly shaped faces!

 

So what if they are getting paid. No one is going to use an inferior goggle because they get paid. And afterall, I think any of the WC racers can afford a $45.00 goggle! Oh maybe they need 2 pair over the course of a season and Pro-form is $25.00 So, they are going to use a lousy goggle to save $50.00 Pleez! We are not talking numerous pair of expensive skis and boots here!

Whenever folks pick on typos,  you know they are groping for straws!Besides if you read I fixed that typo long ago!

 

You should probably quit while you're only THIS far behind.

 

So, Bode et al wouldn't wear an inferior product even if they were paid, yet they're not on UVEX - go figure .

 

And Briko sucks (for you) because it doesn't fit right, yet apparently every racer has the same shaped face and wouldn't need anything particular for them - so are goggles the ONLY equipment a WC racer would use that isn't designed specifically to deal with their anatomical peculairities?

 

So why is it in the general population you have thin and fat faces, slim and fat noses, eyes this or that far apart, yet in the racer world there's only one shape apparently? Or what was the reason they didn't work FOR YOU, since UVEX are apparently so mauch better than everything else?

 

Yeah, these are junk right?

1 SMI0462-GYASM-ONSI Smith Prodigy Goggle
Gray Adaptation/Sensor Mirror, One Size
$47.00 $47.00

Oops. Guess the only BS was coming from your end. Thanks, I'll keep these for under $50 way before some UVEX.

 

Re typos - if I was going to get some mileage from them, my post would have been way long. As it is, the amount of folding back on yourself with claims, unclaims, facts, refacts, pronouncements, re / un pronouncements etc is enough fodder to keep this going a while.

"I'm quite certain that I don't need some pre madonna telling me how everyone's foot is different." Greggor.

"Anywhere else is a waist of time." Skier232.

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I said  I like Briko. think they are great product. don't know what you are talking about.

 

But they are non-existent in the US and service is terrible. Also their double lenses constantly leak. they have had numerous distributors in the US and you can't buy thier top of the line Helmets or goggles in US. They also ahd some sericous product defects in the past.

 

but hey, I have worn a Briko helmet for the last 6 years, so don't know what you are tlaking about!

 

You are getting a bit defensive becuase you got on here and recommended Scot when you bought Smith?

 

Goggle frames are flexible  with a couple of frame styles made to fit many different face shapes and sizes. You don't need a different frame for each and every face shape and size.

 

Yeah! THOSE ARE BEAUTIFUL!  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder was never more true!  When you need a different lense for bright sun, your hot deal just became a $100 goggle!

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man, any and every conditions??  let's see: racers have to hike a ridge in damp, warm weather; racers race in heavy wet snowfall and partial rain a lot; racers ski really slow with great effort in deep snow with high humidity; racers get face shots all the time; racers get burried on the lift just before their run; racers fall in deep, wet snow and have to re-group quickly to catch their friends; and racers have to buy their own replacement lenses at the resort at any shop they can find. yeah, good insight A-man, I'll definitely be asking a racer what gear to ride, especially on those 90+ mph days in a heavy snowfall.
 

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I have owned multiple Smith goggles and do now. I freeski most of the time not race.

 

And yeah, you don't need what racer needs. They are only skiing conpletely balls out at up  to 90 MPH through every and any conditions including, FOG and flatlight on solid ice where visibility is a life and death proposition!

 

I mean why would you use what works for them

 

The Uvex are better and cheaper then Smith's that didn't sell somwhere because they were an off color or weird model!. In fact less then 1/2 the price of a new desirable goggle and they are clearer and have more lens choices!


 

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Sometimes it pays to actually stick with the original question so you don't get into ridiculous arguments:

 

THIS IS THE QUESTION:

Originally Posted by skidevil View Post

 

Anyone know who is having a good sale on goggles online? I want get a new pair for a good price

 Thanks

 

Steve 

 

 

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davluri

 

Change your screen name to Darrell, darrell!

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I said  I like Briko. think they are great product. don't know what you are talking about.

 

But they are non-existent in the US and service is terrible. Also their double lenses constantly leak. they have had numerous distributors in the US and you can't buy thier top of the line Helmets or goggles in US. They also ahd some sericous product defects in the past.

 

but hey, I have worn a Briko helmet for the last 6 years, so don't know what you are tlaking about!

 

You are getting a bit defensive becuase you got on here and recommended Scot when you bought Smith?

 

Goggle frames are flexible  with a couple of frame styles made to fit many different face shapes and sizes. You don't need a different frame for each and every face shape and size.

 

Yeah! THOSE ARE BEAUTIFUL!  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder was never more true!  When you need a different lense for bright sun, your hot deal just became a $100 goggle!

Like I said before - "I stand corrected, it's Smith not Scott that makes the Sensor." Given your capabilities to circle your story back and forth, and fold on itself at will, it seems odd that you'd bring up the fact that I got my "S's" wrong. But AGAIN (I'll type slow this time for you), I meant Smith.

I love this one -  "I said I like Briko, that they are a great product", followed by - they are non-existent in the US and service is terrible. Also their double lenses constantly leak. they have had numerous distributors in the US and you can't buy thier top of the line Helmets or goggles in US. They also ahd some sericous product defects in the past.

 

Funny stuff - pick one story of the other. Great product with "terrible service, lenses that leak, and serious product defects in the past" - so what would you consider a less-than-great product - looking forward to that. AND, I'm just quoting your own words. Funny, funny stuff. I couldn't make it up.

 

Yes those Smith's are for overcast conditions. No doubt there''s a UVEX that does EVERYTHING just right - . Want to buy a bridge or some land in Florida? And I need to be carrying around different lenses to change out dutring the day? Please. So what happened? now that I can show you that the price was right, and that your claim of $110 (or over $4K or $400 or whatever you were attempting to say) is crap, now you're gasping at some other non-existant straws. Give up already.

 

And Daveluri, thanks for throwing some intelligence into the discussion - goggles recommendations for racers - gawd . Yeah A-man, there's a lot of things that wouldn't affect a racer that a free skier sees constantly that a goggle needs to take care of - really.

 

Oh Tog - look at post #10, or #4 - for good prices on good goggles go to Tramdock or SAC and wait for the deals to come. Get some Smiths or Oakleys (or if you're Bode-Briko's - a great product with terrible service, leaking lenses and serious product defects - hey - the A-man says it, it's gotta be right) at some good prices.

"I'm quite certain that I don't need some pre madonna telling me how everyone's foot is different." Greggor.

"Anywhere else is a waist of time." Skier232.

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Anyone know who is having a good sale on goggles online? I want get a new pair for a good price

 

 

Thanks

 

Steve 

 

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Steve,

 

This season I picked up a pair of Zeal Optics Link PPX goggles from REI.  They retail for between $170 and $200.  REI had them on sale for about $110.  Not really a bargain basement price, but they are fantastic and worth every penny I paid for them.  They are both polarized and photo-chromatic.  The lenses are similar to a transition eye glass lens, where the tint changes fairly dramatically depending on the light conditions.  I have used them morning, noon and night in everything from bright sun to a snow storm with fantastic results.  Additionally, I have not had them fog up on me once.  Another plus is that they are helmet compatible. 

+1 on the Zeals.  I have the Link SPP--the lens is polarized and photochromatic but also spherical (and mirrored).  With other brands, you may get one or two of these features, but never all four.  I love the rose tent, makes for a nice vibe.  No fog.  And I think Zeal has one or two new models this year.  Oh, and a superb hard case and a soft case!

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I'll explain it to you this way, Mr. my S's are confused!

 

70's Audi's were great cars, when they ran right!

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Like I said before - "I stand corrected, it's Smith not Scott that makes the Sensor." Given your capabilities to circle your story back and forth, and fold on itself at will, it seems odd that you'd bring up the fact that I got my "S's" wrong. But AGAIN (I'll type slow this time for you), I meant Smith.

I love this one -  "I said I like Briko, that they are a great product", followed by - they are non-existent in the US and service is terrible. Also their double lenses constantly leak. they have had numerous distributors in the US and you can't buy thier top of the line Helmets or goggles in US. They also ahd some sericous product defects in the past.

 

Funny stuff - pick one story of the other. Great product with "terrible service, lenses that leak, and serious product defects in the past" - so what would you consider a less-than-great product - looking forward to that. AND, I'm just quoting your own words. Funny, funny stuff. I couldn't make it up.

 

Yes those Smith's are for overcast conditions. No doubt there''s a UVEX that does EVERYTHING just right - . Want to buy a bridge or some land in Florida? And I need to be carrying around different lenses to change out dutring the day? Please. So what happened? now that I can show you that the price was right, and that your claim of $110 (or over $4K or $400 or whatever you were attempting to say) is crap, now you're gasping at some other non-existant straws. Give up already.

 

And Daveluri, thanks for throwing some intelligence into the discussion - goggles recommendations for racers - gawd . Yeah A-man, there's a lot of things that wouldn't affect a racer that a free skier sees constantly that a goggle needs to take care of - really.

 

Oh Tog - look at post #10, or #4 - for good prices on good goggles go to Tramdock or SAC and wait for the deals to come. Get some Smiths or Oakleys (or if you're Bode-Briko's - a great product with terrible service, leaking lenses and serious product defects - hey - the A-man says it, it's gotta be right) at some good prices.

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Low and behold, you have never used a UVEX product??? So you are speaking (and davluri) from experience here?

 

That's what I thought

 

Genius  I own 2 pair of Smith Goggles currently. they are my back ups. yep they ahve been benched. 2nd String!!!!

 

I freeski. I ski in the Great Pacific Northwest. Yes we have humidity and what do you know we have ridges to climb and in damp & warm weather & heavy wet snowfall and partial rain a lot; to quote the other genius!

 

So let's see here, I own 2 examples of the product you think is so freaking great and I also own the product i am recommending, I have used both in the conditions both you ignorantly describe as inapropriate for UVEX Racer goggles but you have never used the product.

 

Uh, Scott, No I mean the other Scott,  Smith,

It is apparant you don't know your ass from a crevasse!

 

 


 


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Rracers fall in deep, wet snow and have to re-group quickly to catch their friends; 

 

 

Goggles perform differently to a head plant and  are are easier or harder to clean out based on the brand???

 

This is a bit of brilliance?

 

What the hell are you talking about?


 


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I've been using Uvex F1 with gold lite for the last 3 years, and I gotta agree with Atomicman, great goggle for the money. Use it mainly on cloudy or strormy days and has never fogged up, plus has a nice clear lens. Definitely like them better than my Smith Prodigys.

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nice chatting here. Just saying, (in a moment of pure brilliance), a Smith Phenom  or similar goggle will probably have been tested and designed to deal with such eventualities as falling in deep snow by working out such details as: placement of vents, configuration of seals and openings, and so on. There would be no reason to work on that aspect of a goggle designed for a racer who skis on ice at high speeds. A racer would be more interested in aerodynamics, air flow at speed, lens distortion-free characteristics and so forth. The designer would likely focus on those types of issues.

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 goggles perform differently......

etc not coming up do to A's format, see above
 



 

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Now that is just plain false. All goggles can't be the best, but many brands sponsor racers, and the racers wear what they are paid to wear. . The pro athlete is the one person you should never imitate with respect to his clothing and gear as he has not made one decision or judgement about it.Not his call. It's his job to put it out in front of the public. Anyone who believes a pro is using stuff because he personally thinks it's the shit, is falling right into the sponsor's web of deceit. Don't you feel like a moron for believing exactly what you are being manipulated into believing?

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So what if they are getting paid. No one is going to use an inferior goggle because they get paid. 

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example from professional cycling (for older dudes) 1980's. Sean Kelly wrode a Vitus. Total noodle POS. and he was a sprinter. no sprinter in my club, buying his own bike with his own hard earned, would consider riding that glued lug small diameter cheep aluminum tubing POS. and still, professional that he is, he rode the thing to many a classics victory. In spite of his ride, not because of it.

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Try Using Google to find Goggles

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nice chatting here. Just saying, (in a moment of pure brilliance), a Smith Phenom  or similar goggle will probably have been tested and designed to deal with such eventualities as falling in deep snow by working out such details as: placement of vents, configuration of seals and openings, and so on. There would be no reason to work on that aspect of a goggle designed for a racer who skis on ice at high speeds. A racer would be more interested in aerodynamics, air flow at speed, lens distortion-free characteristics and so forth. The designer would likely focus on those types of issues.


 

Your posts just keep getting more ridiculous. You just keep making this stuff up supported wih no fact or experience.

 


 

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Now that is just plain false. All goggles can't be the best, but many brands sponsor racers, and the racers wear what they are paid to wear. . The pro athlete is the one person you should never imitate with respect to his clothing and gear as he has not made one decision or judgement about it.Not his call. It's his job to put it out in front of the public. Anyone who believes a pro is using stuff because he personally thinks it's the shit, is falling right into the sponsor's web of deceit. Don't you feel like a moron for believing exactly what you are being manipulated into believing?


example from professional cycling (for older dudes) 1980's. Sean Kelly wrode a Vitus. Total noodle POS. and he was a sprinter. no sprinter in my club, buying his own bike with his own hard earned, would consider riding that glued lug small diameter cheep aluminum tubing POS. and still, professional that he is, he rode the thing to many a classics victory. In spite of his ride, not because of it.

See, each post is more ridiculous then the last. Absolutley no prrof of  who wears what goggle.
 

and absolute statemnts beginning with your should never are purely ignorant.

 

Yeah it's a communist plot to get me to wear UVEX, ohhhhhhhhh! I feel so abused!

 

Goggle companies would love to have top athletes use thier gear so  maybe the Athlete picked the goggle he likes and then went after a deal with them.  You don't think any of the companies would love to have Bode, Hermann, Benni or Lindsay. You have no idea nor proof of how this goes down. I still say no top athlete is going to use a POS when they can almost certainly cut a deal with a product they want.

 

Uh, Mccartney quit using POC after his helmet exploded, who blew off who????????

 

But for the 10,000th time,  freeski in these goggles and the #1 Wc comment was just a fact in passing.  Don't have a freaking heart attack son!

 

Besides dude we are talking about a$25.00 piece of equipment here not (all the goggle compnies offer product on pro-deal pricingto athletes)not 1,000's of dollars for multiple pairs of skis and boots. 

 

Give it a rest as I predict your next post will be even more absurd and I am not sure I can bear it!

 

Ski racers aren't as ignorant as bikers!

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