More Retro memories????

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Originally Posted by Stranger 

Okay historians, a couple of questions about Henke after seeing Coldwarriors post. 

 

Were they the 1st to do a commercial buckle boot?  Sure hope so there is a bet riding on this one.

 

Anybody have a pic of the Henke Rebel?  It was about 1970 or so, red white and blue plasticized leather, 3 buckle boot.  Was actually a fairly high end.  I skied it part of 1 winter (a lot 1 winter like 4 pairs; leather kept going soft and loosing support).  Been trying to explain it to the kids, they think it is just another rant by the old man. 

 

Help! and Thanks.

I have a couple pair of Henkes (are you still lacing while others are racing), but they are not the model you are asking for -- I am sure someone here would have them, or at least a picture in an ad...

See previous page for my Henkes...

 

 So you must be the guy I have been outbid by on ebay! I have no HANSONs in my collection.

It's ironic since HANSON is the boot I thought was so cool when I got into skiing. Nice collection!

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Originally Posted by Mackware 

Here are some more of those Hanson Boots??                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Originally Posted by MastersRacer 

 

 

I didn't know about the free glass of ice water; I was ripped off. I'll have to go back for that. I arrived late at night and left early the next day. Most of the concessions were closed. There were bikers arriving for Sturgis the next week. An interesting site. We drove to Rushmore and through the Black Hills shortly before the forest burned flat in 2000. That was part of one of my only two cross country drives (NH to CO both times). The VW Jetta would choose not to start at various times, the starter overheated. That's how I got to walk around and see the Corn Palace in Mitchell; waiting for the starter to cool. I don't miss that car for a moment. Now the Corn Palace was a memorable thing! ;o)

 

They have jackelope out west? I thought they only existed in the upper reaches of Mt. Washington! You can't ride the NH variety, it takes a few dozen of them just to make a coat.

 

MR

See what you missed out on at Wall Drug? You'll have to go back during the day!

          Pete, All these boots were found all over the place. I skied on the spider and the cobra for a short time.  None were off of Ebay!!!!   Your collection is fantastic.  It always amazing to see the collection every one has.                                                                                                                                                         Thanks

Pete,

Yes, the black Hanson's I have are Magnums.  The pair I have have slightly different buckles than the ones in the ad you posted.  My little brother had a pair of Hanson Rivas as did a friend.  I really liked the original Hansons as the Prima depicted below.  My brother and friend had the next iteration of the boot, the Riva, which had a moveable clip on the front to change the "flex" (that is, the splitting of the shell -- the more the shell split, the less lateral responsiveness one would otherwise have). 

Daleboot was developed by a skier and inventor name Mel Dalebout.  He just retired and sold his company.  I ski in Daleboots now.  The ST 2002 model.  Best boot I've ever been in.  Super comfortable -- I've had bunion surgery on both feet on my big toe joint and often skied in pain.  No more with the Daleboots.  I got to meet Mel in Salt Lake City before he retired.  When you buy their boots he throws in a copy of his self-published autobiography.  And free in-shop fit tweakings for as long as you own the boot. 

Here's some of the boots he had on display at the shop when I was there:

Eventually Mel teamed with Rieker for a while on the magnesium boot.  Here's another ad for Rieker which includes at the very end that the Uni-fit system is used on the Daleboot:

I have three pair of Riekers in my collection, a pair of never skied in lace up Riekers in the original box, a pair of G-2s and a pair of leather high-back boots that I think were on the market, possibly, at the same time as the G-2 and other plastic high-backs such as the Nordica Astral Racer (I had a pair) and the Astral Slalom (the yellow ones being known as the "banana boot").

Here's a picture of the box for the lace up boot.  I just love the artwork and the reverse shoulder technique:

Her are the Rieker boots.  Rieker is and the logo is imprinted on the bottom of the rubber sole.

Here are the G-2s:

Here's the debut ad for the Scott boot.  Anyone ever see a pair like this?

Or like this?

Here's an ad for the Scott boot from 1972:

When I was first getting started in my collecting, I took a photo of this set up, a Hanson Avanti that had been grooved on the toe for the Marker Simplex, and just happens to fit nicely into a pair of 1970 or so Fischer Superglass Slaloms.  I will be taking this set up out for a spin this coming season as these Avantis fit me perfectly and I really like skiing on these Superglasses (last time it was on a pair of 1968 vintage Rosemounts). 

Last, anyone ever see either the O'Brien boot or the Rosemoutn Alpha depicted below?  The Hanson Riva is the one I described above that my friend had; my brother had an identical model in red, and I think one was made of stiffer plastic than the other.

Hope you enjoyed the photos and info.  Thanks,

Cold Warrior

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Originally Posted by MidwestPete 

 

Great stuff!! That Dyna-Quick is one wild looking boot -- I have never seen that before. Like we were talking about earlier I became interested in skiing in the mid 70s around the Hanson era. I bought my first SKI magazine  a year before I ever went skiing for the first time at age 16.

 

ABC's WIDE WORLD OF SPORTS and the OLYMPICS are what initially grabbed my interest (plus I have always loved winter).

 

my library--

 

Are your black Hansons above Magnums? And on another note, I wasn't aware Daleboot was associated with Reiker.

 

I only have one pair of Reikers (far left) -

 

I have 2 pair of Henkes -- the one above in great shape, and the one below which is mint but the plasticized leather is self-destructing.

 

 

Koflach boots below -

Edited by MidwestPete - 6/11/2009 at 04:24 am GMT

Taking the Avanti's out? Please do a gear review. I remember getting a pair of Exibition II's (the lower front version of the Avanti), what a bad idea. Wanting to get a boot I would grow into, needless to say< i got it 2 sizes too big and considering that Hanson only made 4 shells, I swam in them. What I also recall, is that they had so much forward lean, the safety straps from my 444's wouldn't reach around them so I had to upgrade to the new fangled brakes.  

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Originally Posted by Mackware 

          Pete, All these boots were found all over the place. I skied on the spider and the cobra for a short time.  None were off of Ebay!!!!   Your collection is fantastic.  It always amazing to see the collection every one has.                                                                                                                                                         Thanks

I am always checking the local thrift stores and surprisingly enough I have found a few good items (but no Hansons).

It used to be easier checking on e-bay under "vintage skis or boots" because everything was narrowed down. Now when you type in "vintage skis" about a hundred pair of sunglasses pop up along with t-shirts, etc. (and they're not really vintage or retro).

I never know how to search for THE SKI. When you type that in you get about a thousand misc. items popping up.

 

Ouch!

My medical issues have been all been Taekwondo generated.  I've got a few joint & tendon problems that all stem from that.  I've gotten less competitive with Taekwondo and am spending more time teaching.  While I enjoy teaching, it's hard to give up the competitive side.  Watching from the sidelines lacks a certain Je ne sais quois.

I'll probably start wearing a helmet full time this season anyhow.  I found my self wearing goggles almost full time this year because it was never warm enough to go without a hat and the goggles keep the hat from comming off at speed.

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Originally Posted by MastersRacer 

 

 

I'm glad that you have had such a safe skiing career.

 

My first skiing injury was a broken back in 1977, then around 1985 I tore an ACL free skiing. It was a weird injury because I didn't fall and get hurt, I simply looked up hill when I was merging, unweighted the downhill ski and it twisted left and right. My leg was essentially straight. The doc cleaned up the cartilidge, removed the residue of the ACL and I used a DonJoy brace until I began having chronic pain, even just walking. Steady did my ACL reconstruction with my patella tendon in 2001, then in 2002 I tore the other ACL race training. Similar situation as before; I wasn't going to make it so I stood up and the downhill ski twisted left and right. Another patella tendon repair. Both ACL tears were complete. Since the original surgery in 1985 I've had subsequent clean ups of meniscus in addition to the two ACL reconstructions.

 

I have stopped competitive racing because I can't afford the hospital bills or down time from work. There are a few exceptions: I race an 'easy' DH at Ski Cooper and fore run some other speed events. I hope to return to a business league racing on tele gear if I can recover from a neuroma in my foot (right where the ball of the foot bends in a tele boot).

 

Fore running lets me run the course at my own comfort level as well as I have a pristine course. Both course conditions and the competitive drive seem to be the biggest contributors to injury following, of course, poor technique. Racing exposes you to excessive stresses as well as greater speed than most skiing so it is more dangerous. That risk is countered by the fact that you are always in a closed arena; no public to avoid.

 

I rarely ski without a helmet as I've seen how it can save your life. I also like steep terrain and trees where there are numerous objective hazards. In the spring I sometimes use a bicycle helmet for comfort.

 

Ironically the worst injury, a broken back, has had no detremental affect on my present day skiing, while the knee injuries sometimes act up or at least give me pause.

 

MR

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Originally Posted by skilzthatkilz 

I sprained my left knee when I was seven.  No Surgery, but I had a cast for two months - that was my last season in bear trap bindings.  I've never been hurt racing.  I took plenty of spills over the years, but never windmilled.  Outside of getting the wind knocked out of me from crashing an arial or two in the bumps, I've never been injured since (40 years on skies).   I think that sense of invulnerability is one of the reasons I still don't wear a helmet when I'm free skiing.

 

My only ride on a patrol sled (knock on wood) happened about 20 years ago at Winter Park. Now I have learned my lesson -- to not go skiing when getting over the stomach flu (and not having eaten solid food for a day or two and at altitude). It didn't help there were wind gusts of 70 mph. All factors added up for some lovely hypothermia.

 

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Originally Posted by MidwestPete 

 

See what you missed out on at Wall Drug? You'll have to go back during the day!

Thanks for the travel tip. I really didn't know what I was missing. Those midwest jackalopes put our New England variety to shame!

When my 1965 Ford Falcon was running I had hoped to do a cross country trip with it. Route 66 and all that.

This is the Falcon with its 'driver' about to depart from NH to CO in 2000.

The Falcon rode a car carrier trailer all the way and got a chuckle or two. The 'driver' was a Halloween costume I made. You put paper mache 'shoulders' on top of your head and shoulders and stuck the paper mache head with the fright mask on top. Tip forward and catch the head as it falls off to become the headless ghoul.

And the aforementioned Corn Palace in Mitchell, SD.

For those who don't know, the entire outside of the palace is corn and corn product. Apparently it is redone every year.

MR

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Originally Posted by Philpug 

Thats them, worst boot I ever owned.  

 

When's your birthday Phil?

Buy it now $20.00

Nice Olin IIIs, Burts, and Scott poles though..  They are thinking the moving van sticker on the pole indicates the size, LOL!

 am selling skis, boots, and poles. I found them in the back of my garage, and have no idea where they came from or anything about them. They are old and you can tell in the pictures, that the boots aren't that trustworthy for skiing, but could be used as decoration in your house. They are Lin Mark III skis and the boots are Garmont Im guessing a size 10. The skis are a 170 and the poles are Scottmaster 172.

Again, I do not know much about this, so i will answer you the best i can if your interested. 

thanks for looking!

!

Who will see this and buy it first?

Fair to post buy it now still correct?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Skis-poles-and-boots_W0QQitemZ220431377530QQcmdZViewItemQQptZSkiing?hash=item3352bbe47a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A15%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A3%7C294%3A50

Wow, that set up is worse, worser and worserest.  

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Originally Posted by crgildart 

 

When's your birthday Phil?

 

Buy it now $20.00

Nice Olin IIIs, Burts, and Scott poles though..  They are thinking the moving van sticker on the pole indicates the size, LOL!

 

 

 am selling skis, boots, and poles. I found them in the back of my garage, and have no idea where they came from or anything about them. They are old and you can tell in the pictures, that the boots aren't that trustworthy for skiing, but could be used as decoration in your house. They are Lin Mark III skis and the boots are Garmont Im guessing a size 10. The skis are a 170 and the poles are Scottmaster 172.

Again, I do not know much about this, so i will answer you the best i can if your interested. 

thanks for looking!

 

!

 

 

Who will see this and buy it first?

 

Fair to post buy it now still correct?

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Skis-poles-and-boots_W0QQitemZ220431377530QQcmdZViewItemQQptZSkiing?hash=item3352bbe47a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A15%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A3%7C294%3A50

 

Ahhh, the Mitchell Corn Palace -- one of the many gems in the Midwest. Actually it is kind of interesting for a 5 minute stop to pick up a t-shirt which could have kind of a quirky coolness to it on the coasts .

Good gag with the Falcon!

Dan, The Leather Rieker's are great and all your other boots.                                                                             Here are a few more of the Rieker models.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              

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Originally Posted by Mackware 

Dan, The Leather Rieker's are great and all your other boots.                                                                             Here are a few more of the Rieker models.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              

Whoah - I love those on the far right!  They must have come out in the early 70s when the USA flag look was in. I had a wide leather stars-and-stripes watch band I wore in the 7th grade during that era. Then I made a matching leather belt in shop class!
 

         Those scott were the first model. They had a wrap a round tongue, which they changed.  Never got in to production.  I got a pair the first year production (71 late in the season. from the Rep!  The first model out in production can be idenitified because of the screw Piviot point. The early models, some cracked at the screw. The next one  they reinforced with a piece of metal and two rivets, which helped. These were the three piece boot. I skied two season off and on and loved them. Later I will show some more of the collection of scotts.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

MidwestPete and Mackware,

Awesome photos of the Riekers and Scotts.  Thanks so much for sharing.

Thanks,

Dan

aka Cold Warrior

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Originally Posted by Mackware 

         Those scott were the first model. They had a wrap a round tongue, which they changed.  Never got in to production.  I got a pair the first year production (71 late in the season. from the Rep!  The first model out in production can be idenitified because of the screw Piviot point. The early models, some cracked at the screw. The next one  they reinforced with a piece of metal and two rivets, which helped. These were the three piece boot. I skied two season off and on and loved them. Later I will show some more of the collection of scotts.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

I actually saw someone skiing in Scott Boots last year. I talked to him for a bit, he said it is still the most comfortable boot he wears.  

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Originally Posted by Cold Warrior 

MidwestPete and Mackware,

Awesome photos of the Riekers and Scotts.  Thanks so much for sharing.

Thanks,

Dan

aka Cold Warrior

 

 

I have posted this photo before, but I bought these in the late 70s. While I enjoyed the light weight, these boots rubbed my shins raw.
 

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Originally Posted by MidwestPete 

 

Whoah - I love those on the far right!  They must have come out in the early 70s when the USA flag look was in. I had a wide leather stars-and-stripes watch band I wore in the 7th grade during that era. Then I made a matching leather belt in shop class!
 

Those were the days. My Mom made my second DH suit (below).

note gloves: stars on right hand, stripes on left

She also made a jacket that I speced out: vertical red and white 1" strips for the body and arms with blue stretch for the sides and connections to the shoulders. Even my buddies said it was over the top. I also had a 'Becky's Bonnett' made that was from the 'USA' design with stars and stripes. I was so (not) cool!
 

Both are gone, so sorry, no photos.

MR

Cold Warrior;                                                                                                                                                          More Hanson, More color, Empty shells.  

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Originally Posted by MastersRacer 

 

Those were the days. My Mom made my second DH suit (below).

note gloves: stars on right hand, stripes on left

 

 

 

She also made a jacket that I speced out: vertical red and white 1" strips for the body and arms with blue stretch for the sides and connections to the shoulders. Even my buddies said it was over the top. I also had a 'Becky's Bonnett' made that was from the 'USA' design with stars and stripes. I was so (not) cool!
 

Both are gone, so sorry, no photos.

 

MR

Edited by MastersRacer - 6/12/2009 at 03:25 pm GMT

Hey Doug,
 

You are kind of like Harkin Banks. His Mom knitted his ski sweater, and he earned his skiing money from milking cows. You don't milk cows, do you?

Billy Kidd sported the stars and stripes look for a while too,  didn't he?  Keep digging out the old photos -- I enjoy looking at them!

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Originally Posted by Mackware 

Cold Warrior;                                                                                                                                                          More Hanson, More color, Empty shells.  

 

                                                                                                                                                             

Awesome - Exactly what I am looking for (of course with the guts)!  Not too many of these showing up in the thrift stores of the Midwest.

I have a friend on the Ski Patrol whom I remember skiing in some red Hansons way back when I was first learning. Recently I asked him whatever happened to them, and he said they are in his backyard with flowers planted in them.

 

Some Langes through the decades. I bought the 2 most recent pair for skiing. All others were found at ski swaps, thrift stores, and e-bay.

I find it funny Langes originated in the state next to my home -- no, not Colorado - but in Iowa!

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Originally Posted by Mackware 

Cold Warrior;                                                                                                                                                          More Hanson, More color, Empty shells.  

 

                                                                                                                                                             

Exebition II's. I had that exact boot, in the blue. These were the basis for cement shoes, but they couldn't get the cement shoes to weigh as much.

MWP,

The Black Standard was my first plastic boot, augmented with Jet Stix. Then the red and yellow Scotts, followed by the totally custom (for Tyler Palmer) Langes as seen in the DH pic from Argentina a few posts before this. I picked up a pair of the red Langes, identical to yours (what is the model name?). at a yard sale. They fit pretty well. They only look like they were tried on in the store. I may take them out sometime with some Head HRP COMPS with Look Nevadas with the integrated brake.

When I returned to racing in 2002, I picked up the comps you have. 120 flex, I think. Lange has always had classic boot design. It was great back in the good old days and fantastic now. I now am in the Nordica SpeedMachine 14, which is really just the old Grand Prix with new plastic, although it does have this nice free sliding piece that goes over the arch and into the cuff which gives support without adding a lot of stiffness.

MR

The Lange Banshee...SKI Magazine Jan. 1994

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Dynamic VR-17 ... SKI Nov. 1994

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Marker Rotamat...SKI Dec. 1994

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