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Volkl Tiger Shark 10 ft (plain vs Switch model)

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Has anyone compared the switched vs the non-switched model? If so, does the plain vanilla ski most resemble the switched-on (stiffer) or the switched-off (softer) setting of the switched model?

I'm guessing that maybe Dawg or SJ might have skied both models?? Anyone?

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Originally Posted by RiDeC58 View Post
Has anyone compared the switched vs the non-switched model? If so, does the plain vanilla ski most resemble the switched-on (stiffer) or the switched-off (softer) setting of the switched model?

I'm guessing that maybe Dawg or SJ might have skied both models?? Anyone?
I haven't skied either but my take on it is that the non switch would resemble the switched version with the switch off. Just my two cents.
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I demoed both last year and work as a pro-rep at my area for Volkl. Volkl is saying that the non-switch version of both the Tiger Shark 10 and 12 has a flex between the ON and OFF setting of the switch models. So the non-switch 10 won't be as stiff as the 10 Power Switch model is with the switch ON or as soft with the Power switch in the OFF position. Hope that helps.
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I demoed both last year and work as a pro-rep at my area for Volkl. Volkl is saying that the non-switch version of both the Tiger Shark 10 and 12 has a flex between the ON and OFF setting of the switch models. So the non-switch 10 won't be as stiff as the 10 Power Switch model is with the switch ON or as soft with the Power switch in the OFF position. Hope that helps.
Thanks.

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well my brand new TS 12s non-switch arrived tonight. I don't know how to compare them to anything else less than 25 years old, especially the weight. People have said the weight and complexity of the Switch is a big Con. I guess I would agree to that in principle, but not having skied them can't comment; except to say that the non-switch 12s + Marker IPT 12 bindings are featherweight compared to stuff I've demoed recently (K2 Apaches, Salomon xwings, Blizzards, Volkl 6 Stars).

 

I've been wondering what the non-switch version would be tuned like.... there is no information on the Volkl site, and the ski techs I've talked to are all programmed to sell the Switch version, so they have been unhelpful.

 

I was hoping they would be a little stiffer than "medium" or even set to "full stiff" -- but it sounds like they're pretty close to "medium." Just out of the box flexing on the floor, they feel stiffer than anything I've ridden. Torsionally, I have no clue.

 

I'm really looking forward to them this week in Breck where I'll be mostly on fast groomers and a few short hikes up to Imperial Bowl now that the new chair takes you nearly to the peak.

 

Can anyone comment on the TS 10/12 characteristics versus the 6-Star? that was my very favorite ski ever, but I couldn't find a set this season that wasn't already destroyed.

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OK. So I skied on my non-switch TS 12s (175s; I weigh 190 , am 5'11") for 4 days straight in Breck this past Presidents' Day weekend.

 

We got some nice 3" and 2" drops each night, making the snow incredibly nice. The days never got above the 20s and the nights got some snow so there was absolutely not freeze / thaw. Everything was in good shape. Except for the Windows, Burn, Twin Chutes, etc. that have been ruined forever by SKIING magazine.

 

This is a follow up on the skis as apparatus rather than a rant on the resort however.

 

Breck has plenty of "blue/blacks" which is a strange rating to me: it's either moderate, or it's hard. Why does it have to be in-between? Any way, the TS 12s cut it up like a hammerhead through a slurry of koi as long as you keep the ski on edge. This ski skis on its edges and that's about it. Carve high c-turns and enjoy, transition, carve your low-c-turns, enjoy, repeat.

 

I did ski some moguls, crud and for fun an icy chute in the early AM. All handled amazingly well by this ski. I do think the marketing hype is on to something: it does presume to do it all, and does it all amazingly well. It's a fast ski, though not the fastest. Maybe the power switch on those models dials in the stiffness to pure speed.

 

It's a good all around ski. But I always found myself wanting more. I wanted more all out carve performance of a GS ski, with the manueverability of a more floaty "grizzly" perhaps. I was surprised at how well this ski performs outside it's marketing niche as a "groomer carver" as it handles short radius steep turns and unconsolidated back bowls easily. And then it's just a dream to ride out the apron full bore.

 

I was wrong before, and I admit it. They are heavy skis. A couple of hikes up to Imperial confirm this. I don't know if it's in grams or kilograms, but they are heavy compared to other all mountain skis, even though they have titanium sheets, Ti marker 12 piston iPT bindings, etc. They are heavy. I aerial dropped a small 3 foot cornice and although I managed (lucked out) a technically perfect series of turns, the feeling was of weightyness, not lightyness.

 

In the unconsolidated snow near the margins of the runs I usually descend mid-mountain they totally drive like 4 wheel drive through the crud of the last night's grooming machines and yesterdays snow fall, making ridge turns a foot away from the trees at high speed at that more inticing.

 

All in all, I have to say I am impressed by this ski, but disappointed it's not a 6-Star replacement. Volkl is too fragmented to pick a single ski -- all the AC50s on the mountain were mostly rentals and propped up at the warming huts. I suppose they weren't being used to capacity. 

 

My next ski will probably be a Racetiger or something else (Stolkli / Blizzard / Dynastar) that is lighter and even more high performance (lighter, quicker) on the steeps.

 

-- f9a.

 

 

 

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I demoed the ten foot and twelve foot in the switch and non-switch versions.  I skied with the switches on, I skied with the switches off, I set the switches different for left and right skis.  I couldn't tell a bit of difference between switch-on, switch-off, or no switch at all.

Loved the ski, though.  I bought a pair of 10 foot non-switch and saved a hundred bucks or so, choosing the ten foot over the twelve because it was a better "quiver fit" with my Mantras.
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