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Originally Posted by BigE
Thanks weems.
The issue of "balance between issues" is a different matter than the issue of agreeing what a word means. I will defend your right to be vague as you like as a method to keep options open, and I understand it's intent, even though I may disagree regarding the level to which it can be taken.
Schrodinger's cat might feel different about that.
wrt the Casey Pucket quote, you mean this?
The "feet away from the gate" is a bit of a red-herring. The path of the body is the key. The skier may be able to bend the ski very deeply, and still have the skis very close to break-away gates.
I understand that Puckett is teaching skiers to load the ski and generate more rebound -- an option to which they may not have been exposed.
However, using that tactic effectively depends quite a bit on course set -- rebound is a fast way to get back across the hill. Ted Ligety's Slalom run in the combined this past olympics was an excellent example.
That is not to say that comma shaped turns are obsolete...
Do we agree that these burst mode shots show comma shaped turns? http://www.ronlemaster.com/images/la...2004-sl-2.htmlhttp://www.ronlemaster.com/images/20...oden-gs-1.htmlhttp://www.ronlemaster.com/images/20...-slc-gs-1.html
It is clear in the last sequence that there is significant time spent in the fall-line. A rounder line would be much slower here....
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According to your definition of what is round and what is not, absolutely these are commas. My flexibility allows me to see that according to your mathmatical definition.

It actually allows me to work through a lot of conflict and confusion because it requires me to really work on understanding what the hell an antagonist in an argument is really trying to say. And yes, in the last sequence especially, rounder would be slower. And too round is always slow by definition. And I don't like herring.
I think the terminology that Puckett uses with the kids is "flat" and "deep". This sort of sidesteps the "round, rounder, roundest" issue.
I'm gonna call Casey and find out what his thoughts are on distance from the gates. I'll get back to you.
And yeah, one of the biggest problems I see, in terms of cl's complaint about using racer shots to prove a point, is the one you mention about course set. So many of the postions, moves, angles, lines etc. depend on where the next turn is, that one has to be very careful about generalizing.
And who is Schrodinger's cat?
And it's not vagueness I'm looking for. I'm looking for Flexibility to hold balance with Clarity. Vagueness is Flexibility to a fault. It's a negative consequence of too much Flexibility without balancing it with Clarity. (And yes, I often err on that side!) Creativity, independent thinking, and situational adaptability are benefits of Flexibility. Rigidity and stagnation are qualities of excessive Clarity--Clarity to a fault. Mutually agreed upon definitions, predictability, and effective structures are benefits of Clarity.
Thanks, E