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Originally Posted by extremecarver
Mates, read the question properly "to use in both events next year".
His daughter starts to race. disciplines GS and SL. She might be better than 50% of the posters here. She is not snowploughing! |
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Originally Posted by extremecarver
Mates, read the question properly "to use in both events next year".
His daughter starts to race. disciplines GS and SL. She might be better than 50% of the posters here. She is not snowploughing! She needs the real stuff! But there is only the 11 series AFAIK. (for really good youngsters there might be different graphics.) The 176GS11 with 21m radius is driven by 12 year old girls in Austria (though they train 6days a week at least). However they are on slaloms in the length of 143 at that age. The longest of the youth race department line up skis are sufficient for 90% of the skiers. The GS11 Junior in 176 is outperforming IMO all GS11 04 consumer skis, in the course. And of course are they FIS compliant for the respective age group. The 176GS11 might even pass for the women. |
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Originally Posted by Atomicman
Pick the color she likes best
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Originally Posted by New York Times, May 18, 2005
Research Finds That Red Is for Winners By JOHN SCHWARTZ Wearing red increases the chance of victory in sports, say British researchers who clearly do not follow the Cincinnati Reds. "Across a range of sports, we find that wearing red is consistently associated with a higher probability of winning," Dr. Russell Hill and Dr. Robert Barton, researchers in evolutionary anthropology at the University of Durham, wrote in a paper that appears today in the journal Nature. The research began a year ago with a hunch based on observations in the animal kingdom, where red coloration is often associated with male dominance, Dr. Barton said in an interview. Zebra finches fitted with red leg bands tend to become dominant, while those given blue bands are more submissive. In humans, anger reddens the face, which may send signals of fierceness. The two researchers studied results of the 2004 Summer Olympics to eliminate the possibility of a home team advantage, and found that contestants in tae kwan do, boxing and wrestling were issued red or blue protective gear at random. "It's almost as if somebody had designed an experiment for us," Dr. Barton said. Dr. Hill said the evidence of a beneficial effect had emerged, with combatants wearing red winning 6 out of 10 bouts in especially close matches. "Even we were surprised at how consistently the results have been coming out across the range of sports we have looked at," he said. They have taken a preliminary look at soccer as well, and found that in the Euro 2004 international soccer tournament, the five teams that wore predominantly red shirts did better. This does not mean that a bad team can reverse its fortunes by wearing red, Dr. Barton said. The study applies only to closely matched competitors. "If you're hopeless," he said, "then wearing red isn't going to make you start winning." In London, a representative of William Hill, a leading betting company, called the study "absolute rubbish." "There is no such thing as equally matched opponents in any human activity," and there are too many individual factors to pronounce a trait like color decisive, the representative, Graham Sharpe, said in an e-mail message. Dr. Barton acknowledged that the work might not hold up under further analysis. "All scientific results are a bit provisional, of course," he said. |
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Originally Posted by extremecarver
Just to tell you some words Ivan/checkracer wrote on the german forum www.carvingski.de
There was a 12/13 years old boy 35kg whom all skis were stolen. Consequently he used a 183 Atomic Sandwich race ski, instead of his 171 GS race ski. Guess what --> he was faster. Later in the year in an open race in Sulden on a 186 GS (1:06 minutes) he only lacked 2 seconds to Nicole Gius who was fastest(a prominent worldcup racer). A 13 year old. Get that. "It seems possible to use longer skis as long as they are soft". (quote Checkracer - translated and abriged). As well if the technique is right a little, light junior can use longer skis, and will be faster, they only need to be soft enough. This seems to be the reason for Atomic offering capped sandwich skis, without beta. People are not up to handle the beta. Ivans' notice is in accordance with what I heard at the Atomic Race Test day of the Skihauptschule Windischgarsten (skischool Worldchampion 2005). Even the 11 year olds (girls too) tested the 176GS11, and most were faster than on their old skis! So my advice would be a 135 or 140cm for slalom, and a soft 160cm for GS. But better test before buying. Real race skis don't have that big price differnce during the time of the year, that consumer skis have. |
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Originally Posted by sjjohnston
Well ... I suppose if a course is straight enough and short enough, a canned ham could finish within 2 seconds of good World Cup racer. And anyone could do fine against a good World Cup racer who isn't trying very hard.
But it's nonsense to suggest that any 13 year old could do that on a "real" course. A very good 22-year-old Nor-Am racer can't do it, either. Shoot, a so-so World Cup racer typically doesn't finish with 2 seconds of a good World Cup racer. But the bottom line, as Atomicman notes, is that we're talking about a 9-year-old girl here. Sure, I suppose there might be some benefit in shipping her off to a glacier this spring and having her spend ten days testing longer race stock skis specially built with a flex pattern appropriate to a 75-pound kid. But lets get real. Get the 140 cm (or maybe the 130 cm) ski in red (or maybe yellow). Get one pair of skis for both events. |
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Originally Posted by ermccarty
Don't get either ski. Find out if her team has a pro-form and then order the size her coaches reccomends. Or, find out if your local ski shops are willing to cut you a discount. Most shops give 20%-50% discounts to racers. Considering how much you're spending on coaching, traveling, and entry fees, you really don't want to waste your investment.
You don't want to put her on too short of a GS ski and you really DON'T want to put her on a pair of SL for GS. The side cut on the SL would throw her way off. I raced on GS skis for SL for a year and that worked out fine. After I got the proper size SL ski I started to do a lot better. |
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Originally Posted by sjjohnston
Or ... to put it another way:
140cm GS9 <> 130cm SL9 130cm GS9 <> 140cm SL9 140cm GS9 == 140cm SL9 130cm GS9 == 130cm SL9 75lb 9yearold <> High-powered racer (no offense to any 9 year olds who may be reading ....) |
